Is Camry Twin Engine Worth Buying? There are three shortcomings that are inevitable and not suitable for everyone!
I drive a Camry (parameter picture) twin engine, and there are three shortcomings that are unacceptable, and it is really expensive to change the battery. I advise people who want to buy a hybrid car to think twice, otherwise it will be too late to regret it!
The automobile industry is experiencing a great change that has never happened in a hundred years, and it has become an inevitable trend to develop new energy vehicles.
Plug-in hybrid vehicles and pure electric vehicles are the main models in the future, while hybrid electric vehicles will be eliminated in the future!
This is the real reason why Corolla twin-engine, Camry twin-engine, CR-V and other hybrid vehicles can’t be on the "green card"!
However, at present, Toyota and Honda-based hybrid electric vehicles have achieved high sales, and many consumers are waiting to see and want to buy a hybrid electric vehicle.
So is the current hybrid car worth buying? What are the shortcomings?
Next, I will analyze the advantages and disadvantages of the hybrid car and how much it costs to replace the battery, hoping to give some valuable information to readers who want to buy a hybrid car.
What’s the difference between Toyota THS, Honda i-MMD and BYD DM-i? Did DM-i learn from Honda i-MMD?
We want to know whether the hybrid car is worth buying. First, we need to understand the working principle of the hybrid car, so as to understand the advantages and disadvantages of the hybrid car!
At present, Toyota THS and Honda i-MMD hybrid systems are the main hybrid vehicles. Although both of them are hybrid systems, their working principles are obviously different.
The working principles of Honda i-MMD and BYD DM-i are more similar, so Honda CR-V has two hybrid models, one is a hybrid electric vehicle, and the other is a plug-in hybrid vehicle.
Honda’s i-MMD oil-electric hybrid uses clutches to realize three driving modes.
The first pure electric modeWhen the engine does not work, the clutch of the power separation device is disconnected, the vehicle is directly driven by the motor, and the power battery provides the power source. At this time, the working principle is the same as that of a pure electric vehicle.
The second hybrid modeThe vehicle is still directly driven by the driving motor, and the engine works normally. At this time, the power clutch is disconnected, and the engine is only responsible for driving the motor to generate electricity, and does not directly participate in the driving.
At this time, the working mode is more like an extended-range electric vehicle, and the driving principle is the same as that of an extended-range electric vehicle in Li ONE, so the engine always runs at the highest efficiency and the fuel economy is very high.
The third engine direct drive modeThe engine is working, the power clutch is closed, and the driver controls the power output of the engine through the throttle. At this time, the working mode is the same as that of the fuel vehicle.
When the vehicle needs to overtake and speed up, the motor intervenes to drive, and the auxiliary engine drives the vehicle together. At this time, the vehicle has the strongest power.
The above three driving modes are basically consistent with the working principle of BYD DM-i. Some people think that DM-I borrowed the working principle of i-MMD, but as early as 2008, BYD introduced F3DM, which is the world’s first mass-produced dual-mode vehicle.
The working principle of BYD F3DM is not the same as that of the familiar Tang DM, but the same as that of the Song Plus DM-I. As for why it was not accepted by the market at that time, the main reason was that the engine carried by the F3DM was too poor.
The DM engine is equipped with a 1.0L three-cylinder engine, and its power output is not strong. In the hybrid mode, the power output is insufficient, which makes it impossible to play the advantages of the hybrid mode, so it was eliminated by the market.
In 2012, Honda released the i-MMD hybrid technology, and in 2013, it officially launched the production model, so it was not DM-i that borrowed from i-MMD.
Toyota THS has developed into THS II, which is much better than the previous generation and can be divided into two driving modes.
The first pure electric modeThe engine does not participate in the work and will not start, and the vehicle is driven entirely by the motor, which is the first difference from Honda i-MMD.
However, the pure electric mode of Toyota THS II has a disadvantage, taking Camry twin engines as an example.
Because the battery is only 1.3kwh, it can only be turned on when the power is sufficient, and the pure electric mode can only travel about 2KM, and the speed cannot exceed 50km/h, otherwise it will directly exit the pure electric mode.
It can be said that the pure electric mode of Camry dual-engine is relatively small, but the application scenarios are still relatively rich. For example, the pure electric mode can be enabled when moving cars in short distances, congested roads and queuing, which can avoid the engine idling for a long time.
On the one hand, it can avoid carbon deposition caused by long idle speed of the engine, on the other hand, the engine stops working to achieve the purpose of saving fuel.
The second hybrid mode, due to the working principle of Toyota THS II, is divided into two working states in hybrid mode.
The first working stateDuring normal driving, when the Toyota THS II exits the pure electric mode, the vehicle directly enters the hybrid mode, and the engine and motor drive the vehicle at the same time.
When the power output by the engine is greater than the driving force required by the vehicle, the engine will drive the generator to charge the battery.
The second working stateWhen speeding up overtaking, long-distance climbing and high-speed driving, the engine and motor will still drive the vehicle together, but the engine will use all the power to drive the vehicle and the generator will stop charging the battery.
The power battery also uses all the electricity for motor-driven vehicles, at which time the vehicle has the strongest power. Because Toyota THS II has no engine direct drive mode, this is the second difference from Honda i-MMD.
The first disadvantage, the characteristics of the hybrid working mode of oil and electricity, can’t be green, can’t be exempted from purchase tax, and the price is expensive, saving fuel but not saving money.
Whether Toyota’s THS II or Honda’s i-MMD, the energy for driving vehicles in pure electric mode still comes from fuel.
The cruising range of pure electricity is too short, and the motor is only an auxiliary function. The main driving mode is the engine.
Therefore, hybrid electric vehicles are not new energy vehicles, so they can’t get a green license, and they can’t enjoy the same exemption from purchase tax as plug-in hybrid vehicles.
Take Camry twin engines as an example. The starting price is 219,800 yuan, 40,000 yuan more than the fuel version of the entry-level Camry, and 20,000 yuan more than the fuel version of the Camry with the same configuration.
Imagine that the hybrid of oil and electricity does save fuel, but can it save fuel and money?
I’ll work out an account for you.
With the same configuration, the fuel consumption of the fuel version Camry is 5.7L; per 100 kilometers; The average fuel consumption of Camry twin engines is 4.1L per 100 kilometers.
- The dual-engine version saves 1.6L fuel consumption per 100 kilometers compared with the fuel version.
- No.95 gasoline is 7.51 yuan per liter.
Camry dual engine saves 12.016 yuan in fuel per 100 kilometers compared with the fuel version of Camry. Driving 100 kilometers can save fuel in 12 yuan. Is it worth buying a hybrid car?
If the extra 20,000 yuan for purchasing the dual-engine version is used as fuel money,
20 thousand yuan can buy 95 # gasoline 150200L L.
The dual-engine version saves 1.6L fuel consumption per 100 kilometers compared with the fuel version.
Then Camry twin engines need to travel 93,875 kilometers to save the extra 20,000 yuan.
However, more than 90,000 kilometers, in addition to operating vehicles, basically few car owners can save fuel and money.
If a private car travels 10,000 kilometers a year, it will take at least 9 years to save money on fuel return, so it is said that hybrid electric vehicles save fuel but not money.
Moreover, it is not the same as plug-in hybrid cars. Although plug-in hybrid cars are also fuel-efficient and do not save money, they can get a green card without purchase tax, which is suitable for car owners.
Therefore, the first unacceptable disadvantage of the hybrid electric vehicle is that it saves fuel and does not save money. With the working principle similar to that of the plug-in hybrid vehicle, it can’t be a green card!
The second disadvantage is that the engine is noisy.
The engine noise of hybrid electric vehicle is very loud, which I felt on Camry twin engines, but it is not disturbing all the time, mainly in two cases, the engine noise will be very obvious.
In the first case, the cold car starts.
When the battery is fed, the cold car starts again. At this time, the engine noise of Camry dual-engine will be very loud, and the engine noise can be felt in the whole underground garage. Sometimes it will be caused by traffic jams for a long time, which may be because the engine water temperature is low.
When the car is cold, the engine can’t reach the best state, but it needs to drive the motor to charge the battery, which leads to the noise of the engine increasing under the combination of these two States.
In the second case, when driving at high speed, the battery is strongly charged.
When the Camry twin engines are driving on the highway, the engine cannot directly drive the vehicle due to the hybrid characteristics of Toyota THS II, so the battery must be charged.
Because the vehicle runs at high speed, it requires high power. At this time, it is necessary to drive both the vehicle and the motor to charge the battery, which leads to insufficient engine power.
In order to complete these two working conditions at the same time, the engine can only increase the speed, because the self-priming engine can only obtain the best power output at high speed.
Therefore, when driving at high speed and the battery is strongly charged, the noise of the engine will become very large. If it is sensitive to noise, it will affect the driving experience.
The third disadvantage is that the battery capacity is too small, and the power connection will shake.
As mentioned earlier, the battery capacity of the Camry twin-engine is only 1.3kwh, so it can only travel at a low speed of about 2km, which means that the Camry twin-engine basically travels in hybrid mode.
However, when switching from pure electricity to hybrid mode, sometimes there will be jitter, sometimes very small, sometimes very large, and sometimes not at all.
This is related to the small battery capacity. When the battery feed is switched to the hybrid mode, the engine needs to drive the vehicle and the engine to generate electricity at the same time, so the engine power is insufficient, and the power connection jitter appears.
If the power is switched when the battery is fully charged, and the engine and the battery drive the vehicle at the same time, there will be no jitter.
Therefore, the jitter caused by too small a battery may be unavoidable. This shortcoming is actually good, but it is somewhat unacceptable for car owners who pursue perfection.
Replacing the battery is expensive, so drive carefully.
Toyota and Honda’s hybrid electric system can be said to be very mature, and they all adopt "shallow charging and shallow discharging" to extend the battery life.
As long as the battery capacity of Toyota THS system is lower than 60%, it will stop discharging directly, while that of Honda is 55%.
This has both advantages and disadvantages. The advantage is that the battery can always be kept at more than 50%, which can increase the number of battery cycles and prolong the battery life.
The disadvantage is that the battery capacity of the hybrid electric vehicle is very small, and it is lightly charged and discharged every time, which makes it impossible to switch the power output mode for a long distance, which may cause the body to shake.
Due to the protection methods adopted by Toyota and Honda for the power battery, under normal use, the battery will basically not decay to the point where it cannot be used normally or be damaged.
Moreover, Toyota guarantees the battery for 8 years or 200,000 kilometers, and Honda guarantees the battery for 10 years or 200,000 kilometers, so the owner does not have to worry about battery damage, and it is expensive to replace the battery.
However, if the battery is damaged by the owner, it is not cheap to replace a battery.
Theoretically, taking the Camry dual engine as an example, the battery capacity is only 1.3kwh. At present, the power battery is 1,300 yuan /kwh, and it is 1,300 yuan to change a battery, plus the working hours are up to 3,000 yuan.
In fact, according to the maintenance cost of replacing the power battery exposed by the owner, it is obvious that it cost 23,848 yuan to replace the battery.
Therefore, it is not cheap to replace the battery in a hybrid electric vehicle, but as long as you drive normally, you basically don’t have to worry about the cost of replacing the battery.
Advantages of hybrid gasoline-electric vehicle
Although I mentioned the disadvantages of hybrid electric vehicles, its advantages cannot be ignored.
1. Whether driving at high speed or in traffic jam, the fuel consumption is relatively stable, and the fuel consumption per 100 kilometers is basically about 5L, which is very suitable for car owners who often run long distances.
2. A tank of oil can run more than 1000 kilometers, so you don’t have to worry about mileage anxiety, and you don’t have to refuel frequently. In today’s fast pace of life, the time saved is money.
3. No matter under any working conditions, the power of the hybrid electric vehicle can come at any time, the power output is better than that of the fuel vehicle, and the power ride comfort and driving experience are incomparable to that of the fuel vehicle.
The extra cost of buying a hybrid electric car may not be able to save fuel and money, but the driving experience is great!
Write it at the end
Hybrid cars are worth buying, but not for everyone.
If you don’t use cars frequently, don’t run at high speed, and just commute to work, then a fuel car is enough.
If there are requirements for power, endurance and long-distance driving, then a hybrid electric vehicle is worth buying.
If you buy a hybrid electric car just to save money, then I advise you to think twice. Actually, it doesn’t save money. If you buy it rashly, it’s too late to regret it!